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catman
06-24-2020, 01:39 AM
The players and owners agreed on a 60 game season, to begin around July 23.
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-announces-2020-regular-season
Here are some of the key points to the agreement:
• Teams will open the season with a 30-man active roster; it will be reduced to 28 players after two weeks, then to 26 after four weeks.
• The Trade Deadline will be Aug. 31.
• To be eligible for the postseason, a player must be added to the Major League roster by Sept. 15.
• Teams will be permitted to carry up to three taxi-squad players on the road during the season, though if a team carries three such players, one must be a catcher.
• During extra-inning games in the regular season, each half-inning will begin with a runner on second base. The batter who made the final out in the previous inning (or a pinch-runner for that batter) would be that runner.
• There will be a 10-day injured list for both pitchers and hitters, though the 60-day IL will be reduced to a 45-day IL.
• There will be a separate IL for players who either test positive or have symptoms/confirmed exposure to COVID-19. There is no maximum or minimum days for this IL.
• MLB’s transaction freeze, which has been in place since the season was suspended, will end on Friday at 12 p.m. ET.
• In addition to COVID-19 testing every other day, some other health precautions are as follows: Team personnel and players not likely to participate in the game (for example, the next day's starting pitcher) will be sitting in the stands or another area designated by the club, at least six feet apart; non-playing personnel will wear masks in dugout and bullpen at all times; no spitting or chewing tobacco (gum is permitted); no celebratory contact (high-fives, fist bumps, hugs, etc.).

Tomahawk Chop
06-24-2020, 11:38 AM
• During extra-inning games in the regular season, each half-inning will begin with a runner on second base. The batter who made the final out in the previous inning (or a pinch-runner for that batter) would be that runner.

This will be interesting!

catman
06-24-2020, 02:03 PM
Interesting is not the term I would use to describe this rule. Stupid is more like it.

Tomahawk Chop
06-24-2020, 05:26 PM
Interesting is not the term I would use to describe this rule. Stupid is more like it.

Why is it stupid? What is stupid about it?

The reasoning behind it is the same as adopting the DH across the board. To preserve energy of the players.

The 'International Tie-Break' Rule is common in the sport of Fastball (which is what I played growing up).

It forces execution in the extra innings and makes it more of a 'sudden death' feeling like in other sports. The 17 and 18 inning games are not as exciting as what the international tie-break rule will bring.

It also brings strategy which is exciting in baseball. Teams that have players that can bunt and get that runner over to third right away are going to help teams win. Some teams are gonna try swinging for the fences to get that two run lead and sometimes it will work, but more often than not it won't.

It also allows for the defense to execute to win a game. If the team can get that lead runner out on the bunt or first play then that works out well. Or the defense might choose to put the first batter on and try turning a double play.

I think it will be great and will help games get done in 10-12 innings as opposed to 17-18 sometimes!

Tomahawk Chop
06-24-2020, 10:33 PM
Even avowed purists don't really want to watch their club's sixth reliever go through the opposing teams' 7-8-9 hitters in the top of the 13th; at that point, it's hard to resist switching to Netflix or just turning off the TV and going to bed. By placing a runner on second to start the frame, though, every at-bat in extras is a high-leverage one, making for guaranteed intensity no matter who's up, and with a runner in scoring position at all times, the likelihood of a game stretching past the point of interest is considerably lower.

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catman
06-25-2020, 12:10 AM
I'll tell you why I think it is stupid. It artificially affects the game. Let the game play out the way it was intended.
This season, I think the DH in the NL will help pitchers. They will be able to concentrate on pitching and not worry about swinging bats. If they can hit, as some can, they can be used as pinch hitters occasionally.
I am old-school in most cases, but many pitchers have not batted since they were in high school. They are paid to pitch and anything else is a bonus. Give the teams another bat to help them out.

Tomahawk Chop
06-25-2020, 10:52 AM
I'll tell you why I think it is stupid. It artificially affects the game. Let the game play out the way it was intended.
This season, I think the DH in the NL will help pitchers. They will be able to concentrate on pitching and not worry about swinging bats. If they can hit, as some can, they can be used as pinch hitters occasionally.
I am old-school in most cases, but many pitchers have not batted since they were in high school. They are paid to pitch and anything else is a bonus. Give the teams another bat to help them out.

They are only doing the international tie-breaking rule for the regular season. Its like the NHL does with the 3 vs 3 for regular season overtime. And then a shootout. It makes for an exciting finish to regular season games as opposed to games dragging out until all hours of the night.


Even avowed purists don't really want to watch their club's sixth reliever go through the opposing teams' 7-8-9 hitters in the top of the 13th; at that point, it's hard to resist switching to Netflix or just turning off the TV and going to bed.

I think it will be more exciting than you think. And its better than the alternative of ending in a tie if the teams do not have a winner after 11 or 12 innings.

hermesdc
06-28-2020, 10:58 PM
Is very Good yea!!!

dwj21792
06-29-2020, 02:04 AM
Interesting is not the term I would use to describe this rule. Stupid is more like it.

I agree. Baseball's attempts to "speed up the game" are getting a bit ridiculous. Extra inning games should remain the way they've always been.

Tanner
06-29-2020, 10:58 AM
So, I have a few thoughts.

I am SO excited to have baseball back!

I think this season will of course have an asterisk on it because it is well, only 60 games. However, that should not discount the winner of the World Series. If someone hits .400, of course that shouldn't count, but it would be cool to see!

I am curious to see who all make the playoffs this year, and how overall everything plays out.

Tomahawk Chop
06-29-2020, 12:32 PM
I agree. Baseball's attempts to "speed up the game" are getting a bit ridiculous. Extra inning games should remain the way they've always been.

Should they??

They are having a shorter training camp, they are condensing the schedule, I think they are making the right decision it limit injuries.

Tanner
06-29-2020, 12:50 PM
I believe someone starting at second base in extra innings is a little ridiculous. Is that implemented into this season? I know that has been a thing in the minors for a year or two now.

Tomahawk Chop
06-29-2020, 02:32 PM
I believe someone starting at second base in extra innings is a little ridiculous. Is that implemented into this season? I know that has been a thing in the minors for a year or two now.

Its common in Men's Fastball as well. Especially in international competition.

I don't think they are adopting it for playoffs... just for regular season.

So we can compare it to the 3 on 3 overtime and shootout in hockey in the regular season.

I think the players want this in baseball just like they want the universal DH right now... and I think its the wise choice.

Tanner
06-29-2020, 03:10 PM
Its common in Men's Fastball as well. Especially in international competition.

I don't think they are adopting it for playoffs... just for regular season.

So we can compare it to the 3 on 3 overtime and shootout in hockey in the regular season.

I think the players want this in baseball just like they want the universal DH right now... and I think its the wise choice.

Just seems a little less skill-based than what you described with a shootout. Already granting someone second base?

Universal DH I love!

Tomahawk Chop
06-29-2020, 04:07 PM
Just seems a little less skill-based than what you described with a shootout. Already granting someone second base?

Universal DH I love!

Its requires significant strategy on the team part.

Option 1) Bunt the guy over then sacrifice fly to take a 1 run lead - skills required... someone who can lay down a bunt and someone who can hit a deep enough fly to score the runner.

Then you are on defence and you need a pitcher to strike out the side or you need to force a ground ball that holds the runner at second.

Option 2) Let your guys swing away Hopefully they hit a double or a homer and get a bigger lead than a 1 run lead.

Option 3) Defense - walk the first batter and put a force on all around... but then if a guy hits a double our home run you have a bigger deficit.


If you think that starting with a runner changes any of the skills of baseball then I am not sure you understand the concepts of it. You still have to strategically score runs by bunting, stealing, hitting... and you still have to prevent runs by getting the batters out.

The player starting on second is more like real baseball than the shootout in hockey. A shootout becomes about two players... the shooter and the goalie.

The true equivalence of a shootout for baseball would be picking 3 batters from each team to hit the ball off of a tee and seeing which team hit the balls the furthest distance.

Tanner
06-29-2020, 04:28 PM
Its requires significant strategy on the team part.

Option 1) Bunt the guy over then sacrifice fly to take a 1 run lead - skills required... someone who can lay down a bunt and someone who can hit a deep enough fly to score the runner.

Then you are on defence and you need a pitcher to strike out the side or you need to force a ground ball that holds the runner at second.

Option 2) Let your guys swing away Hopefully they hit a double or a homer and get a bigger lead than a 1 run lead.

Option 3) Defense - walk the first batter and put a force on all around... but then if a guy hits a double our home run you have a bigger deficit.


If you think that starting with a runner changes any of the skills of baseball then I am not sure you understand the concepts of it. You still have to strategically score runs by bunting, stealing, hitting... and you still have to prevent runs by getting the batters out.

The player starting on second is more like real baseball than the shootout in hockey. A shootout becomes about two players... the shooter and the goalie.

The true equivalence of a shootout for baseball would be picking 3 batters from each team to hit the ball off of a tee and seeing which team hit the balls the furthest distance.

I never said it doesn't take strategy. That's literally all baseball is, strategy, skill and dumb luck.

Skill wise, you are allowing a lead-off double and seeing a now what? Scenario. I just feel like it cheapens the game, and it isn't how baseball has been intended to be played.

I typically enjoy and agree with most rule changes, but that one is still rough for me. Yes, you bring up the points it still takes a bunt and a sac fly to bring him in, but so does a lousy blooper single. When in reality that blooper would have just had someone on first, and the inning is still not lost.

I don't disagree with your points. You lay them out and they're fine, but I disagree with changing how things have been for the sake of changing them.

It doesn't change the skills, it cheapens it. Might as well start them at third and get the game over with. Extra innings are there for a reason.

Tomahawk Chop
06-29-2020, 04:44 PM
I never said it doesn't take strategy. That's literally all baseball is, strategy, skill and dumb luck.

Skill wise, you are allowing a lead-off double and seeing a now what? Scenario. I just feel like it cheapens the game, and it isn't how baseball has been intended to be played.

I typically enjoy and agree with most rule changes, but that one is still rough for me. Yes, you bring up the points it still takes a bunt and a sac fly to bring him in, but so does a lousy blooper single. When in reality that blooper would have just had someone on first, and the inning is still not lost.

I don't disagree with your points. You lay them out and they're fine, but I disagree with changing how things have been for the sake of changing them.

It doesn't change the skills, it cheapens it. Might as well start them at third and get the game over with. Extra innings are there for a reason.

Yes, they are there for a reason. But teams still have to execute and score that run. Or score multiple runs. Both teams still get to bat... both teams get the runner on second.

The underlying reason is to keep games shorter and keep the players healthy.

You can't argue against this rule change and then argue for the DH rule... they are both being implemented for the same reasons... player health.

If the international tie-break rule cheapens the game... then so does the universal DH.... right brett05 ;) haha

brett05
07-07-2020, 10:23 AM
I am most happy that the NL advantage is finally gone :)

Tomahawk Chop
07-07-2020, 11:20 AM
I am most happy that the NL DISadvantage is finally gone :)

I think auto-correct got you there brett05.... I fixed it for you! ;)

catman
07-21-2020, 01:11 PM
Its nice to have current games to watch. Some are live, others are recorded.

brett05
07-21-2020, 02:04 PM
Its nice to have current games to watch. Some are live, others are recorded.

What do you mean recorded games?

catman
07-22-2020, 09:23 PM
rebroadcast from earlier in the day or a previous day.

Tomahawk Chop
07-23-2020, 11:44 AM
Go Braves!!!!!

catman
07-23-2020, 12:53 PM
Off they go tonight. Looking forward seeing highlights of real baseball tonight when I get home from work.

Tomahawk Chop
07-23-2020, 04:36 PM
AL East: - Yankees
AL Central: Indians
AL West: Astros
WC x 2: Rays, Angels ( If Expanded playoffs announced today I add - Twins, White Sox, Athletics)
AL Winner: Astros

AL ROY: Jo Adell - Angels
AL Cy: Tyler Glasnow - Rays
AL MVP: Mike Trout - Angels

NL East: Braves
NL Central: Cubs
NL West: Dodgers
WC x 2: Nationals, Reds (If playoffs expanded add - Cardinals, Mets, Brewers)
NL Winner: Braves

NL ROY: Dylan Carlson - Cardinals
NL Cy: Yu Darvish - Cubs (Another insanely good second half - although this year he doesn't have the first half to offset it)
NL MVP: Ronald Acuna - Braves

World Series: Braves
World Series MVP - Freddie Freeman